I'm going to take what grace and dignity I have left and bow out of this discussion now. In part because I think we've reached a point where I've determined that our respective points of departure (i.e. where we're "coming from") are too different to create a stable basis for an argument. But mostly because I'm tired of it. Thanks for the intellectual challenges guys, and for all the low-handed digs. I'll take them to heart BC. You jerk.